Wednesday, October 31, 2012

Mayor Janice Daniels' friends break the law and cheat, again

I distributed a few lawn signs for the Recall campaign. One thing I learned immediately was that Janice Daniels went around to houses with Yes signs and whined her way into getting some startled Troy citizens to remove the signs and some (especially international people and business owners) to put up No signs. I learned it because people TOLD me.
Nice.
This has been the modus operandi of the friends of Janice, like Martin Howrylak, in the years I have been involved in politics in Troy. They cheat and strong arm people and straight out lie. 
She and her buddies have capped our taxes (throwing the city into financial disaster), fought against the library and installed the tea party mayor who hid that she was tea party until the night she took office.
This year, it also became clear that Janice's campaign buddies were ripping off signs, dozens of signs. Signs posted legally. So the Yes recall campaign started to watch the signs, and sure enough, along came the a sign poacher.
And the police were called.
Troy Patch posted the story today at 4:
Man Caught Removing Legally-Placed Recall Yard Signs
A Troy man may face charges after he illegally removed five yard signs Tuesday afternoon from the corner of East Long Lake and Rochester Roads.
The 62-year-old man was removing several Recall Janice Daniels yard signs from the Meadowbrook Plaza shopping center when a recall supporter confronted him.* Per Patch policy, the man's name is not being published unless he is charged.
“We’ve been doing stakeouts," Recall Janice Daniels co-founder John Kulesz said. "They’ve been disappearing as quickly as five minutes after we put them up."
Kulesz, who was not one of the two individuals watching the signs on Tuesday, said the man "pulled up and started taking our lawn signs down and throwing them in the trunk of the car.”
"The signs were legally placed," Troy Police Capt. Robert Redmond said Wednesday. "We took a police report. It will be turned over to the city attorney’s office for review."
"We will pursue that as we would any other request for a criminal charge,” Troy City Attorney Lori Grigg Bluhm said Wednesday, adding they must determine if there is enough evidence to proceed. “We want to look at this fairly quickly."
Read more here

Teach the cheaters the ultimate lesson.
Recall Janice Daniels!




28 comments:

  1. Please drop a note to city attorney Bluhm asking her to prosecute this crime. There needs to be an example made so this behavior stops. bluhmlg@troymi.gov

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  2. I just really dont understand the whole sign stealing thing. It makes NO sense to me whatsoever. As if that is really going to have an impact on the final outcome.

    Also, isn't our police department short staffed, and don't they have other things to look after? Not that crimes should go unpunsihed, but this just seems pretty minor.

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    1. Yes, let's always look the other way when politicians cheat and steal. That's good for our community.
      I got involved when I found out how much the TCU gang cheated back in 2010. I've been doing my best to expose them ever since. It has kept me very busy.

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  3. I visited the Troy Citizens United Facebook page and this is an actual quote from Christian Teodoridis: "Just finished a great trick-or-treat subdivision walk with the kiddos ... Vote NO on the mayoral recall if you want to keep the trick-or-treat tradition in our city!"

    They are delirious and I so enjoy the amusing things they do and say to totally embarrass themselves.

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  4. Janice Daniels's supporters are becoming very brazen. Yesterday, one (a cranky older gentleman) came up to my spouse who was dining in a restaurant to argue about spouse wearing his "Recall Janice Daniels" pin in public. Same old argument "well, the people elected her". Just dumb to me if that is your only argument, you'd follow the Pied Piper over the cliff, I guess!

    I'm hoping that the charges go through if only to discourage the brazeness, and make the anything-for-Janice crowd obey the rules at the polls next Tuesday. It'd be interesting if the sign-taker happens to be a close associate of Daniels, yet another embarassing public explanation would be due from her.

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    1. At the end of August, I was driving my husband home from shoulder surgery at RO Beaumont (he'd returned from a 12 month active duty deployment to the middle east only a month before). I have a Recall bumper sticker on my car. A man in another car (I'd say a cranky older gentleman), pulled up along side, honked and made obscence hand gestures at us as he screamed through his closed car window (I can only imagine what he was screaming). Nice folks, those Janice supporters.

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  5. I'm a law and order guy. So I'm for prosecuting anybody stealing either the YES or NO signs.

    But please keep your posts real and accurate. You go on to say: "She and her buddies have capped our taxes (throwing the city into financial disaster),". You either know or should know that SHE had nothing to do with capping our taxes. That Council initiative came about years before SHE came upon the scene.

    I'm sure that you don't care what I think, but I'll tell you anyway. You can't preach all the time about being the "Fountain of Truth" and then state inaccurate "facts" without appearing hypocritical.

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    1. "You can't preach all the time about being the "Fountain of Truth" and then state inaccurate "facts" "... some dont look at it as being hypocritical John, because they see 'their' truth as the real truth, and the only truth, so help them God.

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    2. Wary and Weary in TroyNovember 2, 2012 at 4:52 PM

      So using that logic, do you agree that all the things that Daniels takes credit for right now and were done by the previous council are fabrications (lies)? Businesses that planned to come here well before she took office and she claims she was why they came to Troy, as an example?
      Facts are important. Truth is important. It just seems that the two "sides" in this, shall we call it a debate, don't agree on what the facts are. When the information presented has video, audio, eye-witnesses, written sources and that is blown off as not true or important, then that is where this enormous source of frustration comes into play.
      People start out in a campaign with all good intentions. It is when faced with lies, obfuscation and dirty tricks that it makes it very difficult to maintain your goodwill. I had a Prop 1 save the library sign in my yard and every other day a man, from one street over drove past my house and made obscene gestures at me and my family. I don't have to describe him, that has been done for me. Now, when I go past his house or see his vehicle, it still infuriates me.
      Why did he do that? Don't I have First Amendment rights too? I guess his obscenities are his rights? When does this incivility stop? I for one, am sick and tired of it.

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    3. Hi John. Well, I listed a bunch of things that I said they did. You may be right about that point in particular. As I recall, Janny showed up on the scene in December of 2009. The cap was enshrined in November of 2008, so it was a year before. It's unclear to me how she became such fast friends with Howrylak, as within a couple months she was in the debate over the tax increase. Something makes me believe that Howrylak was her mentor and that she was around long before she started speaking.
      However, she has said that when the Tea Party got so popular in April of 2009 she really got into politics because the internet helped her realize that a lot of people thought the way she did.
      So yes, you could be right.

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  6. I look forward to reading the police report concerning this incident.

    I wonder if there were a variety of signs in the trunk of the car, or perhaps this was a targeted enforcement effort.

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    1. Ha! No. It was a targeted sign stealing. That is theft, chum.

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    2. I should have made my point more clearly, it would have helped to use "I wonder if there were a variety of signs in the trunk of the car, or perhaps this was a 'targeted enforcement effort' (snark)".

      What I meant was that perhaps this 'public minded citizen'(snark) was interested in cleaning up the public rights of way and had confiscated a wide array of garage sale and other illegal placed advertising signs ALONG WITH Yes and No Recall signs (it's possible- but I'd need to see it in the police report to believe it).

      On the other hand, the unauthorized cleanup might have been a 'targeted enforcement effort'(snark)(don't they use this phrase at the Troy Citizens' Police Academy?). If the only signs 'cleaned up'(snark) by the allegedly misinformed miscreant (not snark) were Recall Janice signs; then then it might be not a coincidence(snark).

      Will you be requesting and posting the police report or lack of same?

      Recall Janice, expose all her miscreant fellow travelers. Not all her fellow travelers are miscreants, but I bet at least two or three are.

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  7. And just so you know, this criminal activity is not just carried out by your opponents. Some SOB stole my Howrylak sign last night. Your people are not all as pure as the fresh driven snow as you would have one believe.

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    1. Let's be careful saying who "owns" people.

      Recall supporters are not necessarily anti-Howrylak. While it is true that no one body of supporters is 100% innocent, you should not say things that would lead readers to believe that a recall person, a KTS reader or anyone else in particular stole your Howrylak sign.

      For the record, our presidential sign was stolen, too. But I don't need to say it must have been a Liberal who did it...or a Tea Partier...or a Libertarian. It just got taken. Oh, well...

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    2. Sue, admonition deserved. Sorry about that. In my anger(I had just discovered the sign was gone.) I did what I criticize others for doing. It's ironic because I get upset when people assume that I am on one side or the other. Guess I'm not perfect after all. Mea culpa!

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    3. Sue, when I said "Your people" I meant anti-Howrylak people as the blog owner is fiercely anti-Howrylak. I did not mean Recall people. My original post here correcting an assertion that the blog owner made about the Mayor may have led you to assume which side of the recall issue I'm on. I only made that correction because I'm a truth zealot. I've corrected the other side too.

      Please know that I'm not back tracking on my admission that saying "Your people" was out of line. I just wanted to give you this additional info so you know who I was referring to in my ill advised statement.

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    4. Oh for crying out loud John. You are doing an excellent job being a fence sitter. You were perfectly justified in calling out the 'your people'.. in the situation you did. This was no more egregious than implying anyone who has a different opinion than TRUST, or KTS MUST be a card carrying Tea Partier, or dyed in the wool member of TCU. And tell me THAT hasnt been said before! Yea, it has.

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    5. I'm glad my Taj, Kerwin and Meisner signs have been left alone although on my street there are more than a few "NO" signs. I don't normally put up signs on my lawn but in this case I feel strongly for these candidates, not only based on the issues, but on meeting or viewing on an LWV forum, and also in Andy Meisner's case, pro-active record as the incumbent Oakland County treasurer. Along the same vein, incumbent Oakland County prosecuter, Jessica Cooper is my choice. I met her and her opponent at a meet and greet, and there is no contest as to who is better qualifed...she's a tough, no-nonsense lady who runs a tight ship, and has vast courtroom experience.

      Mary Kerwin long ago gained my respect when during the library problems she was the only one on council who responded to my emailed questions, not only one email, but back and forth a few times. In contrast, recently I've emailed Martin Howrylak a question about his stance on an issue and have yet to hear from him. One thing I know for sure is I want my future state representative to be responsive to their constituents and not just big PAC money special interests.

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    6. Yes, "John" I am fairly anti-Howrylak. Again, if you had faced him on the library as I have you wouldn't be a fan either. You are his friend, so I understand why you don't appreciate my criticism of him. I certainly hope he is not elected.
      I'm also not a fan because he helped Janice get elected last year, and coached the appalling man who used racial slurs at the Dec 5 council meeting. Ick.

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  8. Some interesting stats from the latest financial statements from No Troy Recall and Recall Janice Daniels from on the oakland.gov campaign finance page. Recall Janice Daniels raised a total of $18,471.00 from 217 unique donors and spent $16,129.00. No Troy Recall raised a total of $10,704.00 from 48 unique donors and spent $4,640.00. 13.7% of all monies raised by Recall Janice Daniels came from people outside of Troy, while 23.5% of all monies raised by No Troy Recall came from people outside of Troy. The interesting thing about this is that the largest donor to No Troy Recall was Mark J. Daniels (Janice's son) who contributed $6000.00 over 3 days. If you disregard that amount from the total raised, and I think this is a legitimate exercise since the No Troy Recall group did not spend a little over $6000.00 of the money they raised, then out of the $4,640.63 spent 46.9% of that money came from donors who don't live in Troy. I think these figures say a lot about who is really being funded by outside sources and who has a broader base of support. Vote YES to Recall Janice Daniels.

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    1. Also eye-opening looking at Martin Howrylak's latest campaign finance statements...he's received significant contributions from Blues PAC, HealthPac, Realtors PAC, Meijer PAC and DTE (either through them or one of their high-ranking executives). If he gets elected I won't be surprised at how he votes, yep, rubber stamp those utility and BCBS rate hikes, and if the realtors want another fee scheme to add on to real estate transactions, that sound reasonable too!

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    2. I don't believe a young, enlisted Marine could spare $6k, so my assumption is that it's Janice's money. Could be wrong, but these guys don't make alot.

      And yes, our police force is thin, but that has to do with Janice and her Tea Party friends. I also don't want them to spend time on this, but when someone walks onto my property and steals something that is mine, that I paid for thru donations, they should be prosectured. If this is a frivolous us of police time, then perhaps theft should be made legal or Janice should have told her followers to run a dignified campaign. It starts at the top, and the top is rotten.

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    3. Or it's money laundered and originally from Americans for prosperity...

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    4. Wary and Weary in TroyNovember 3, 2012 at 9:41 AM

      Sadly, the $6K will not be able to be tracked. But it is illegal to donate using someone else's name. I can only hope that Daniels and her supporters did not put that young man's reputation on the line or in question for the sake of her political ego and ambitions. That would be sickening if a mother allowed that.

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  9. "No Recall" Daniels supporters are stooping so low as the election gets closer. I just got a robo call telling me that property values will decline and taxes will skyrocket if the mayoral recall goes through. Give me a break. They are using any scare tactic they can and what is sad, some voters will likely buy into it.

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