Thursday, August 9, 2012

Madame Mayor Responds to Friend Paul Smith's Horrific Behavior

Now that Paul Smith has earned his fifteen minutes of infamy -- and thrown good friend Janice Daniels under the bus -- our illustrious and controversial mayor has responded on her Facebook page.  I'll let it speak for itself:






Not to be left out of the commentary, ANOTHER of Daniels's good friends weighs in.

Jasky is best known for www.fedupusa.org.  Among his many talents, he produced a child who was COINCIDENTALLY chosen as one of Mayor Daniels's winners in the Mayor for a Day contest.  And he likes to call those with whom he disagrees on the local newspaper, Patch, a special name.  They are "Patch-holes."

You cannot comment on Mayor Daniels's page if she doesn't like what you say.  So feel free to exercise your right to free speech in the comment section here.

31 comments:

  1. Hey Janice, I don't really give a rip how you met your hate-filled friends. All I know is that if I had friends who were holding signs with Obama's head on a stick and with Granholm's head in a noose, I would no longer be their friend. Not because I'm a political fan of either of these individuals. They wouldn't be my friend because making and holding such signs is a vile, disgusting, and frankly, psychotic thing to do.

    It wouldn't matter that my former friend doesn't smoke. It wouldn't matter that my former friend has a great daughter. It wouldn't matter that my former friend used to work at GM. It wouldn't matter that my former friend is an avid bike riders. It wouldn't matter that my former friend used to be in the Air Force. It wouldn't matter that my former friend has been married forever. They would no longer be my friend.

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  2. Randy is awesome. He is sort of like what Colbert is caricaturing except more so, and he really, really means it. Apparently he believes if you don't think it's ok to slur gay people or Hispanics you are a socialist useful idiot. What a peach.

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  3. Notice how she doesn't say she disagrees with the racist words and the pictures depicting the assassination of elected officials? But it's great to know Mr. Smith doesn't smoke. They keep mentioning his Air Force career and the Air Force is probably cringing. This is NOT representative of the men and women that come out of our Armed Services after a long career.

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    1. As one of Mr. Smith's fellow councilmen pointed out at the city council meeting in Sterling Heights yesterday -- if he was active duty when these photos and this video and his Channel 4 News comments came out, he would have been discharged. So much for the great patriot.
      If Janice cared so much about free speech, she would let everyone comment on her quasi-official FB page -- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Janice-Daniels-Mayor-Troy-Michigan

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  4. If you watched the Sterling Heights Council meeting, you would know that the signs were just the needle that broke the camel's back. The sign issue was prior to Smith being elected. However, when interviewed by WDIV this week, he defended
    his actions. Also, the council had numerous other issues with him, such as not following the rules of conduct; trying to interfere with the boards and committees, etc.

    This is just more of the same fluff to try and excuse the behavior. Yes, in fact, he and Janice have a right to "free speech" but with that should come some common sense and some responsibility.

    The Mayor Pro Tem, Michael C. Taylor, presented the issues very well. He also explained why they were an issue.

    I'll bet that Paul Smith "loves all people" too.

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    1. I bet he even said "hello" to a gay person once.

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    2. A recall should be the next order of business... he is a problem on the council. Research it...

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    3. Yes, it appears that he is a total screw-up as a council member too. I watched the beginning of the meeting dealing with approving a tax abatement for a new manufacturing company (bringing jobs!) coming into town. It was apparent the other council members were grateful that their city had been chosen. Smith was rude and said that they got a very good price on the empty building thus did not need a tax abatement, plus had they considered the savings they would have if the business personal property tax were rescinded. Also he questioned the nationality of the company. All inappropriate and non-relevant questions to bring up to the petitioner especially at this late stage of the process. I can see why he has not one supporter left among his fellow council members.

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  5. It cracks me up that certain people and certain groups try to turn everything into a First Amendment argument when their comments/actions are challenged, yet never appear to actually understand what the First Amendment says.

    The First Amendment does not give anyone license to say anything they wish without challenge. What it says is that the government cannot legally punish you for your speech. There is a big difference.
    Can I run around using epithets, slurs, carrying racist/homophobic signs? Yes.
    Can the government punish me? No.
    Can my fellow citizens comment on it? Yes.
    Can my fellow citizens approve/condemn it? Yes.
    Can my fellow citizens ask for the resignation of someone they find to be unfit to lead them? Yes.

    For people who are so devoted to the Constitution and our "founding principles", they cannot seem to grasp the simple concept that public opinion and prosecution by the state are two different things. They are free to use as much hateful bigotry as they wish and we are free to stand up to them and call them out for it. Mr. Smith and Mayor Daniels are not having their First Amendment rights crushed, they are merely being held accountable for how they chose to exercise those rights.

    As far as the Mayor's defense of the Smiths, it just goes to show that she is probably in the same line of thinking, but wasn't brave enough to hold one of the signs. That is only an assumption and only my opinion with no facts to back it up (other than the listing of the word "fags"; I think it's safe to say she agrees with that one based on her own public "private" musings.)

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  6. Yes, they have the right to free speech. That doesn't require us give them a forum or tolerate their hateful ignorance. Just like I can decide who is welcome in my home,we can decide who we want in our office! I would not welcome fascists. I would not welcome the KKK. I do not welcome the Tea Party hate mongers who advocate the use of guns, nooses, or spikes to settle their perceived grievances. Janice, you ARE judged by the company you keep! Resign.

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  7. Let's not forget, this lovely man not only defended the mayor in a council meeting, he pretty much accused the recall campaign of gathering fraudulent signatures.

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  8. Would it surprise anyone if the person Janice was probably communicating back and forth with on her infamous "queers" facebook posting was Paul Smith or his lovely wife?

    Any way of finding out? I'd bet it was.

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    1. Freedom of information act request. This guy apparently doesn't understand Youtube. Communications by email?

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  9. You are judged by the company you keep, simple as that. None of my friends speak that way and if they didn't they wouldn't be my friend. They hide behind the 1st Amendment, the Bible and now this guy is hiding behind his uniform. It is sickening. Keep in mind this man lives within a 10 mile radius of a Military Installation, military offices within Oakland and Macomb, and military contractors. They need to look into this because terrorist do live among us, and many times they are American.

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  10. Speech is not an unfettered right. There are many laws, civil and criminal, that place limits on speech. Those include the following:
    - Liable
    - Slander
    - Sedition
    - Inciting a Riot
    - Disturbing the Public Peace
    - Terroristic Threats
    - Engaging in a Criminal Conspiracy
    - Various obscenity laws
    There are also civil conventions and customs that control human conduct in public. For example I think we can
    all agree that walking up to someone and saying "my, you have a huge nose", or "you're a que.." or "you're a f.." is socially unacceptable and rude. So, why would one think that carrying a sign that says, among other things, "can't die soon enough" (in connection with a photo of a politician with bullet holes in her head) or "shit on stick" (along with a photo of the head a man on a spear, in this case the President) is OK? And, why would one think there are no repercussions for such behavior? If those actions violate one on the enumerated legal limitations, legal action should be taken. If it's just rude and socially unacceptable behavior we should call them out and chastise them; that's what social control (which is vital for a free, civilized society to function effectively) is all about.
    Mr. Smith stated at the SH Council meeting he wouldn't apologize because his apology wouldn't be accepted and people would jus say he's lying. Well, the need to apologize for our transgressions is not dependent on willingness of the offended to accept it. It's what truly remorseful people do. As for the Mayor's response, I have been corrected by my spouse, my best friends and co-workers when I stepped across the line. They did so because they care for me and it's the right thing to do. If the Mayor is truly a good friend she'll tell Mr. Smith he's erred, that he should apologize and change his conduct; and then support him through the process. Failure to do so indicates she either really doesn't care about him or thinks he did nothing wrong.

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  11. www.recalljanicedaniels.org - donate $5 to help Troy become the great diverse, open city we were before this travesty happened. Share with your friend please! Together we can make a difference! Many of us who would like a competent, fiscal conservative who is not a bigot as our Mayor.

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  12. Janice's response is extremely disappointing, but not surprising. I am just shocked that there is not somebody with some political common sense that could advise her on how to handle these things. She could have still supported him personally, while denouncing the words on the signs. She also could have supported his right to free speech, while articulating that these are views that she does not share. She absolutely could have handled this in a manner that would have allowed her to separate herself from this and still not "sell out" her friend.

    If the mayor had condemned the signs and his comments but remained supportive of him as a friend, then I would have actually been of the opinion that this has nothing to do with her and should not be criticized. I would not have automatically held her accountable for something her friend said and did. Unfortunately, her comments on the issue only reinforce why she should be recalled.

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  13. I responded to Jasky's comment on the Mayor's FB Page and I repeat it here as she will most likely take it down soon as she sees it:

    "When "free speech" trends towrd hate crimes, as the posters that the Smith's carried, then one may lose that right and face the consequences. Last I heard, it is against the federal law to threaten a sitting President...I may not like him, but I do not espouse physical harm to Obama or Pelosi or Reid or Granholm. Anybody that condones this as a right of "free speech" has crossed the line."

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    1. You were right - the comments were removed. It was interesting because when I "Liked" her page, immediately I could not post, but others could. I sent her an e-mail about it, then Jasky's post was removed. I received a reply that she doesn't know why, but will check into it.

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    2. That didn't take long...removed and locked out of replying. So much for open communication and transparency from our Mayor!

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  14. you can watch Sterling Heights City Council meeting here:

    http://shtv.pegcentral.com/player.php?video=409764d5342bf48fae5666a13874bd72

    citizens are outraged and speak up against having a bigot in the government. Miora Smith goes hysterical at approximately 1:40:00 on the video, declaring that there must be a conspiracy against her "family value" husband. How dare people accuse them of being hateful racist bigots she wonders? could it be the terms "fag" or "bitch or "wetback" used on paul's signs? He blames the media and that he is a friend of Jancice.

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  15. This is typical of folks who are racists, homophones, etc. Call them out on their racist actions and they claim you are attacking their right to free speech. It's very disturbing the ease and comfort that people like Janice Daniels and her best pals have with being openly racist and homophobic. It goes back to what I said in a post on a previous entry about alienating constituents. Dave Henderson will defend all of this as he usually does. But I will close with this question, Is this really the image of Troy that certain elected officials want to convey? And yes, open association with racists in other cities reflects on Daniels, as mayor, and it reflects on the city. I feel sorry for the outstanding men and women who work for the City of Troy. They and the people who live there deserve better.

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    1. Just to keep the dialogue on the subject, take Dave Henderson out of it for the moment. He does not have a connection to this topic...yet. So, to avoid being accused of being mean and awful and baiting, just don't mention his name in relation to this story unless he posts his own comments or defends either the Smith's or Daniels. Let's not lose focus on the main characters in this unnecessarily.

      This story has enough wrong with it that comments should be about the Smiths and Daniels connection to them. Getting into a Dave scrum is just a waste of energy and pulls attention away from the central issue.

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    2. Agree with Sigmund. Dave has nothing to do with this. I don't understand why you would bring his name up. Just to repeat his previous quote on the subject.

      "...not for a minute would I condone the signs depicted, nor would I stand shoulder to shoulder with someone bearing that sign. I am no big fan of our former governor or our current presidents policies, but they were elected by the people to do the job, and the signs depicted in the article are inflammatory and exactly the kinds of things that led to Gabby Giffords attack (IMHO)."

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    3. I agree that an elected official's actions even if they are done as a private citizen DOES reflect back on their constituency. I remember before Paul Smith became notorious for his signs I couldn't help but feel negatively about Sterling Heights when he came and spoke on Daniels's behalf at our city council meeting and implied something fishy went on with the recall petitions. All points to the need for our elected officials to consider their service to government their primary concern, not their own personal agendas.

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  16. Question for Paul Smith and Janice Daniels. Now that they are elected government officials, how would they like their heads on a stick, in a noose or with bullet holes appearing on posters?

    For all of Mrs. Smith's bragging about her husband's accomplishments he sure didn't learn much, like for instance, the golden rule, don't treat people they way you wouldn't want to be treated. Seriously I wonder if he needs a test for Alzheimers? His wife's excuse? From what I can see, none, pure evil on display there.

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  17. Here's the big thing . . even though these signs were held 3 years ago, they both seem very angry and hostile toward their own Government. They also live within a 10 mile radius of an Army installation, Selfridge Air National Guard base, Federal offices in Troy and Macomb county, and two of the world's biggest defense contractors. Timothy McVeigh also wore a uniform at one time and it didn't stop him from bombing the Federal Buildings in OK. The Smiths and known associates should be investigated to the hilt so that all those true Patriots who work at those places don't face the same fate. This should not be taken lightly!

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