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Sunday, July 8, 2012

FYI Janice - Separation of church and state

"We in the United States, above all, must remember that lesson, for we were founded as a nation of openness to people of all beliefs. And so we must remain. Our very unity has been strengthened by our pluralism. We establish no religion in this country, we command no worship, we mandate no belief, nor will we ever. Church and state are, and must remain, separate. All are free to believe or not believe, all are free to practice a faith or not, and those who believe are free, and should be free, to speak of and act on their belief.
At the same time that our Constitution prohibits state establishment of religion, it protects the free exercise of all religions. And walking this fine line requires government to be strictly neutral. And government should not make it more difficult for Christians, Jews, Muslims, or other believing people to practice their faith." 
Source: Remarks by President Reagan 
to Temple Hillel and Community Leaders in Valley Stream, New York

11 comments:

  1. Janice probably looks down on President Reagan as a RINO

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  2. Actually they love President Reagan (as do I); however, they seem to ignore the positions he took that don't support their cause. Excellent quote, thank you.

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  3. President Reagan would be horrified by Janice Daniels. Horrified. I'm sure of it.

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    1. Which President Reagan? The one that armed and invited the Taliban to the White House*? Or the one that secretly sold arms to Iran? Maybe it was the President Reagan with Alzheimer's in office. The Ronald Reagan that told Cadillac driving welfare queen stories would have loved Janice.

      * American President Ronald Regan Meeting Taliban http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQKoyJ8KRh4

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    2. Wow! Now, what do you really think? Just kidding! Perhaps you miss the point; even a noted conservative hero recognized the need for government to stay out of the religion endorsement business.
      As for the rest of your observation, isn't great we live in America. We all have the right to be wrong, and I respect that right.

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  4. Most logical and sane people would be horrified by her.

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  5. Funny how their "true conservative values" don't reflect the beliefs of conservative icons such as President Reagan. Interestingly, true conservatives believe in limited government, strict adherence to the constitution and limited intrusion into our private lives.
    The current Mayoral administration has done nothing but intrude into the private lives of Troy citizens and only apply constitutional rights when they aid their side.

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  6. How sad that the idea of separation of church and state is frowned upon these days! It was such a matter of course that everyone, even conservatives, took it for granted back in Reagan's day. Someone like Rick Santorum or our Janice Daniels, loudly proclaiming their Christian values, would be looked upon, at the very least, of being in bad taste. Now it seems that the Tea Party requires it of their candidates.

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  7. Also not to forget her plannining commission nominee, Gordon Schepke, who gave his money to a pyramid scheme because the front guy presented himself as a Christian, and thus Schepke trusted him. What a handy example close at hand for Janice Daniels and her followers of the folly of mixing religion with business and government. But I doubt that they will ever admit it...the religion angle gets them the lunatic fringe, one-issue vote. Just say what they want to hear, i.e., no taxes, and "I love Jesus". I feel like we are drifting into electing the most-like Tammy Faye & Jim Baker these days. The Christian electorate are being swindled in a sense, like Schepke was, by voting in people who are not qualified but are saying they have Christian values.
    Let's take religion out of it, and instead supply resumes whose contents will show the actual non-partisan accomplishments and public service of the candidates. I'll be looking closely at Deb Debacker, Martin Howrylak and Bob Gosselein's in the upcoming races. One they won't be able tout is "saved the public library", "nearly sunk the public library" would be appropriate.

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    1. Ah, how prescient, re "no taxes and I love Jesus" for playing to the Tea Party constituency. Janice did both at last night's council meeting. First, her opening invocation had two references to Jesus, and in her response to public comment on her accomplishments as mayor, she brought up taxes. She touted her bringing about open Saturday library hours as an accomplishment. CM Slater pointed out that she voted No on that. She responded that she votes No as a matter of course on anything that involves raising taxes, or costing the city money. Okey-dokey, so how can she brag about being responsible for Saturday hours? Is it because she brought up the idea initially? Football analogy, it is like she switched teams in the middle of the play, but feels like she has the right to claim the touch down anyway.

      If she survives the recall, I pray that the Lord Jesus will enlighten her with a moral compass!

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  8. The founders of Troy created a charter that called for a non-partisan City Council. That Charter was ratified by the residents and although amended several times the non-partisan Council requirement has not been changed. As the previous post alludes to, the logic for non-partisan elected officials is twofold: 1. It allows the voter to review the candidates without political cues and encourages the voter evaluate a candidate based on their qualifications, 2. It eliminates political posturing, positioning and faction formation during Council deliberations. Well, that's the theory. It worked well in Troy until the election of career politician Robert Gosselin who politicized the process. Any one ever hear Mayor Stine, Councilmen Husk, Pallotta, Stevens, Or Allemon campaigning on party politic platforms? Don't believe me? Check the record.
    Perhaps this is why the Mayor doesn't approve of the charter.

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